| Jim -
You don't know
me. My name is Jim (mastermindless of JimFormation.com). I was tangentially
involved with "Kaycee" and "Debbie".
I believe I know
who "Debbie" and, perhaps, "Kaycee" really are.
She/they are
members of collegeclub.com. I understand that you're an admin at
collegeclub.com.
If you want my
info, I'd be glad to share it.
I'm considering
spilling my info at metafilter. But I don't want to screw you by
doing it.
My desire is
to get the facts and truth out.
Good people like
you, your brother and Randy van der Woning have been seriously fucked
by this hoax.
And I'm pissed.
Jim
www.JimFormation.com
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----- Original
Message -----
From: "k a y a" <CaptainKaya@collegeclub.com>
To: <jim@jimformation.com>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: I have news re: Kaycee
Hey Jim (I dig
your site) ... yeah, this has been wacky. I still can't fill all
the holes - it still doesn't add up.
Anyhow, I'm not
sure how that would fuck me if they're members of CollegeClub...
unless you mean they work here? That would really blow me away.
Although, I don't see how that would be possible.
I'd love to know
what you're thinking - maybe I can help in finding more truth on
the issue.
Thanks for the
note - looking forward to hearing more...
Jim/K a y a
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<jim@jimformation.com>
wrote:
Thanks Jim -
Here's how I
came to my conclusions:
I also got sucked
into the Kaycee story. I spoke to her/them (Deb/KC) a couple of
times via AIM ... perhaps an email or two.
When this whole
thing came to a head and it was reported that Kaycee had died, Randy
asked if he could use my message board. Of course, I said sure.
(http://www.jimformation.com/cgi-bin/bb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=000006).
This morning
I spoke with Randy (the bwg) via AIM re: this fiasco.
Off hand he said,
"Debbie posted something on your bulletin board. I can tell
because she spelled 'talented' wrong."
Randy, as you
probably know, edited all of Deb/KC blogs. This was a common spelling
error for Deb.
(http://www.jimformation.com/cgi-bin/bb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=000006&p=2)
half way down,
look for "Hannah" and the word "talanted" in
the body.
(As an aside,
this entry, as far as I know, is the only one that professed to
know kaycee personally. A smoke-screen.)
Well I, as administrator,
have access to the sign up information (in which you must supply
an email address).
"Hannah"
used: tropicalmist@collegeclub.com.
I checked her
out at College Club:
(http://navisite.collegeclub.com/servlet/search.HandlePostServlet?searchTypeID=3&Keywords=tropicalmist).
This is registered
to a 21 year old University of Kansas woman named Ashley Smith.
I believe Ashley Smith is Deb and/or KC. She majors in Social Work
.... perhaps she's had to do some hospital or hospice internships.
Perhaps there she developed the kaycee story/personae. Ashley Smith
also claims many sports as her interests.
("Ashley"
as I recall, is the name of the woman that Deb/Kaycee was supposed
to meet in Kaycee's trip to Florida).
Ashley Smith
has on her friends list at collegeclub.com an unidentified young
woman with the member name of "kutebabe". As you probably
know, "Kaycee" used onekutebabe@hotmail.com (or some derivitive)
as an email address.
"kutebabe"
is a student at Wichita State University (in Kansas) and claims
to be majoring in "Health and Medical Sciences". This
knowledge gained from her courses could be enough to weave a tale
of leukemia and hospitalization.
Also, as part
of her profile, "kutebabe" sounds a whole lot like the
fictional girl we knew as "kaycee": "I am proof that
you can be Athletic, have a brain AND be Kute too!!" All that's
missing is the "/pounce".
'kutebabe' also
mentions your brother on her friends list. And, as you go through
her friends list, there's a lot of kaycee-type threads and clubs.
I think the kaycee
personae has developed over time. And I think that collegeclub.com
was the kettle that stewed it all up.
My guess is that
there is more than one person who fostered and developed this whole
thing.
You can do a
google search of Ashley Smith and varying combinations of Kansas
and University of Kansas. You'll find some pages that may or may
not be the "tropicalmist" woman. You decide if it's worth
your time.
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Why might you
or collegeclub.com get screwed? Bad name because of the hoax of
a member? Perhaps those two email addresses would get spammed hard?
Perhaps I'm wrong.
I don't know.
Let me know what
you think.
If it's worth
it, pass on this info to your brother.
Thanks for answering.
Jim
www.JimFormation.com
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----- Original
Message -----
From: "k a y a" <CaptainKaya@collegeclub.com>
To: <jim@jimformation.com>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: I have news re: Kaycee
Wow, Jim... fascinating stuff. Let me look at some of this - first
of all, Kutebabe is the "Kaycee" we're talking about.
She's been a Host on CollegeClub for a long time and gave literarly
HUNDREDS of hours doing tasks, writing articles, hosting chats,
etc. (Which makes all of this even more wacky)
I looked at a
photo she sent to me and it's on Kodak film with her signature on
the back... so, who is the girl? Ashley? The Ashley side is very
interesting and something I hadn't heard or thought of. I checked
out TropicalMist - she hasn't been on CollegeClub since last May.
Didn't find any other info.
Man, this just
gets crazier.
Thanks for keeping
me updated, Jim.
J i m
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<jim@jimformation.com>
wrote:
Yep. Really wild.
As perplexed
as you are. Randy is more so.
I have no more
answers. Certainly more questions.
Anyway, I don't
think I'm going to waste too much more time on this ... unless something
pops into my mailbox.
Do you mind if
I post this to either my website or over on metafilter which I've
never participated in before). Maybe someone else wants to ... ahem
(forgive me) ... continue this investigation.
Thanks for your
time, Jim. Really nice meeting you.
Jim
www.JimFormation.com
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Post as you wish,
my man.
Nice to meet
you too. See - the Web is still good... right? ;)
Take it easy,
j i m
http://www.captainkaya.com
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